tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7914583305766959062.post8052770909902298481..comments2023-10-05T02:35:28.442+10:00Comments on TGF: You think you'd get something for $43bAdamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15053851915830995508noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7914583305766959062.post-87125061627894471162011-11-25T13:43:52.250+10:002011-11-25T13:43:52.250+10:00This is a very old post, but sometimes people like...This is a very old post, but sometimes people like to revisit their predictions and see where they went wrong.<br /><br />NBN plans from $35 a month? Who would of thought it was possible?!?<br /><br />http://www.exetel.com.au/residential-fibre-pricing-mainland.php<br /><br />http://www.internode.on.net/residential/fibre_to_the_home/nbn_plans/<br /><br />It hasn't been rolled out everywhere yet, but I will be keeping my eye on how it goes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7914583305766959062.post-31719597468132373422010-08-19T23:35:53.731+10:002010-08-19T23:35:53.731+10:00I'm not arguing that copper should be turned o...I'm not arguing that copper should be turned off (In fact I think it should be left on for at least 10 years after fibre is laid in a particular area) but the market will drive down prices. <br /><br />What was the original price of Telstra copper when it was first laid, I'm sure it was magnitudes greater than what we pay for it now. Over time the wholesale price of fibre will fall, while the speeds will rise.<br /><br />I would rather have the NBN owned by the government (much like our roads). Privatise it (like Telstra) and suddenly it becomes a whole new ball game. Like Telstra selling their ADSL at below wholesale price. You can't tell me that thats fair to the other ISP's. <br /><br />The government owned monopoly is just ridiculous. 99% of the copper in the ground belongs to Telstra, and there's no way in hell 'competition' will ever replicate something like that or like the proposed fibre ever. Instead, you'll see anti-competitive markets (like the US) where cities and towns are locked into a certain provider simply because they laid the fibre down and refuse to share it with anyone else.<br /><br />Another way of thinking about it is our roads. Should they be privatised? By your argument they should be, because right now they are a 'government-owned monopoly' thats hurting consumers. I've never been on a major Sydney highway, yet my tax-payer dollars funded it.<br /><br />So by your thinking, the competition out there should have built our roads. What you'll see is a mixture of wide roads, narrow roads, thick roads, thin roads, paved roads, cement roads, dirt roads. And you can be sure that all of these would require some kind of cost before you can use them, because they needed to be funded somehow, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7914583305766959062.post-12538408050104444052010-08-19T23:18:59.914+10:002010-08-19T23:18:59.914+10:00"Yeah, and 640K of ram ought to be enough for..."Yeah, and 640K of ram ought to be enough for anybody" - I'm not saying that what we've got now is sufficient, I'm saying that we will get a better result if it's commercially & market driven.<br /><br />"Explain to me how this is different from Telstra owning the copper in the ground and selling it onto ISP's?" - It's not very different at all - but wholesale cost of that copper access (whether for phone calls or Internet) is cheaper the further it gets away from Government hands. Since the Davidson Enquiry of 1982 and subsequent deregulation of telecommunications in Oz, telecomms has just gotten cheaper.<br /><br />Bear in mind the copper thats in the ground costs us very little for what we get from it. It's old & it's uses are limited, but it is already there & already paid for, might as well let people who are satisfied with it (people with basic Internet needs) make use of it.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053851915830995508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7914583305766959062.post-35083450941800552382010-08-19T22:57:20.912+10:002010-08-19T22:57:20.912+10:00Stop sucking Tony's you-know-what.
"Yes,...Stop sucking Tony's you-know-what.<br /><br />"Yes, this network that is serving 20Mbps+ Internet to many Australians, or around 2-5Mbps to a vast majority of Australians, meeting their needs quite adequately, will be turned off"<br /><br />Yeah, and 640K of ram ought to be enough for anybody. I'm one of the Australians that doesn't even have 2mbps, and let me tell you, it sucks. I'd love to be able to have ADSL2+, but you know what? I'd love to have fibre. I could stream TV over it, have High-def chats with family members, take remote control of their PC's to troubleshoot/fix them. Not to mention the fact that it could open up a whole new industry for Australia, and attract plenty of IT jobs.<br /><br />"You won't be able to get Internet from anyone other than NBN Co because the copper network you used to get your modest Internet from will have been shut down."<br /><br />Explain to me how this is different from Telstra owning the copper in the ground and selling it onto ISP's? Its not. The NBN Co will resell the bandwidth onto ISP's (like iiNet, Internode, Telstra, Optus and anyone else who wants it). The only difference is that its NBN Co, not Telstra that owns the fibre.<br /><br />Grow a brain and do some informed research, moronAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com